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RE: we can flush out corruption from India

Please help make the Manifesto better, or accept it, and propagate it!
Dear Mr. Chawala

I highly appreciate your views about my suggestions on removing corruptions. 
I also read the open letter written by you people to the Prime Minister Mr. 
Bajpai and I strongly support your views. Though Mr. Bajpai is himself an 
honest man (itís my personal opinion to which you may or may not agree) but 
to keep the coalition government in power he is quite helpless in taking 
some drastic steps. But, come what may, the dynamic and educated people must 
do something concrete in this regard. Though some 8-9 years back, I was 
associated with a similar group headed by Mr. Madhu Limiye and a former 
Foreign Secretary (his name I donít remember at the moment), but somehow it 
lost it direction and thrust, and the movement it tried to create died a 
premature death. Please see to it that history is not repeated here.

I wish you all the best for organizing such elocution contests.  I think 
that such contests will make some impact if people like Mr. N Vitthal, Mr. 
Bimal Jalan, Mr. M S Gill and eminent journalists/editors  are invited to 
attend it. Please do not invite politicians, You know what I mean.

Kind regards

Rajeev Sinha

>From: "Promod Chawla" <promod_chawla@netkracker.com>
>Reply-To: debate@indiapolicy.org
>To: debate@indiapolicy.org
>Subject: RE: we can flush out corruption from India
>Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:18:37 -0700 (PDT)
>Please help make the Manifesto better, or accept it, and propagate it!
>dear rajeev, anant,kamal & sunil,
>with political will, suggestions put forth below,make total sense to
>me-rajeev: as u state propogate-will use yr inputs to advatage for India by
>straightaway telling 1 mr vittal 2  mr msgill 3  an important jt secy who 
>known to me in min of info technology 4 indian banks assn chief  5 governer
>RBI  5 media 6 use some of yr inputs in elocution contests as opening
>remarks- first one in Delhi is scheduled for 22 may 01-topic: ERADICATING
>CORRUPTION, what can be done in coming 100 days.- iim, ahmedabad alumni 
>Delhi chapter initiative(to which I belong);we have planned to hold these
>elocution contests all over the country.
>Rajeev-will take it that u concur & support above- unless u e-mail me back
>by IST 12 noon 26 april 01.-++ ideas always welcome! Am also e-mailing u
>inputs of a cause we hv taken up-this is for yr use & complimenting &
>supporting the same right away-
>kind regards
>promod chawla
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Anant Trivedi [mailto:anant_t@hotmail.com]
>   Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 11:02 PM
>   To: promod_chawla@netkracker.com
>   Subject: Fwd: we can flush out corruption from India
>   ----Original Message Follows----
>   From: "Rajeev Sinha"
>   Reply-To: debate@indiapolicy.org
>   To: debate@indiapolicy.org
>   Subject: we can flush out corruption from India
>   Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:15:26 -0700 (PDT)
>   ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>   Please help make the Manifesto better, or accept it, and propagate it!
>   ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>   The corruption in India is as old as the history itself and its 
>   are deep into the system. But in recent days it has appeared in the
>   faces. Though I would like to discuss here only that face which involves
>   money transaction. Time to time political parties there, with all its
>   politicians (needless to say corrupt politicians) rant the sky with some
>   catchy slogans that they are going to remove corruption in next few 
>   but unfortunately corruption is very much there to stay and itís become 
>   rule rather than exception. You can face it, feel it on every walks of
>   Go to any government office you will feel how the so-called officers 
>   the blood out of you. And the result of this corruption is that even 
>   five decades of independence half of the Indians are illiterate (i.e. 
>   are quite ignorant of the three Rís and canít even write their names) 
>   more than 35 crore population is below the poverty line and live in 
>   poverty. If we look at the Indian economy, in terms of purchasing power
>   parity, itís ahead of the America, Britain and many so called western
>   developed countries, but by the grace of our great national politicians 
>   are among the poorest and most corrupt countries in the world.
>   Despite that I see silver linings of hope that if the current government
>   wishes, corruption can be eliminated to a large extent (at least by 80% 
>   hope), if not by 100%.
>   If we see the way of money transaction in America, we find that itís
>   through banks. Banks play a major role in the transaction of money in
>   business. You can pay any amount of dollar ( from 1 cent to a billion
>   ) either through your personal cheques or through your credit cards ,
>   depending upon its credit limit. The main thing to emphasize here is 
>   the electronically transaction of money, makes it more and more
>   to the regulating or law enforcing authority. On a similar pattern we 
>   to develop a system in our country. But the biggest hurdle is our
>   illiteracy, one billion strong population and half a billion population
>   living in poverty. But there is nothing that we canít do. There are many
>   ways out of it. Here are the following steps we can firmly and slowly 
>   onÖÖ..
>   1. The move of the election commission to issue identity cards has 
>   miserably. The main reason was that no database was properly maintained
>   many people were able to have identity cards in different names. For
>   (say) Ram Kumar was able to have identity card in the name of Ram Kumar,
>   Shyam Kumar as well as Mohan Kumar i.e. one man with three identity 
>   Beside that the card had other discrepancies in it like wrong name and 
>   that. What I suggest is that every Indian should be issued an electronic
>   photo identity card with a unique identity number and most importantly
>   electronic database should be maintained. The unique identity number can
>   used everywhere to ascertain the identity of the cardholder (similar to
>   Social Security Number in USA) The electronic photo identity card will
>   magnetic tape on it (just like credit cards) which when scanned will 
>   instantly all the details of itís holder person. These kind of 
>   identity cards are not very costly and are issued to students in many
>   colleges and universities in USA, Australia and other countries. This
>   electronic photo identity card will play a major role in checking the
>   corruption. It will have many benefits like maintaining law and order 
>   currently we will stick to its benefit in checking economic corruption.
>   The government will later make is mandatory that every person who opens 
>   account in banks will have to produce this identity card and people who
>   already have their accounts give their identity number to the bank. 
>   can freeze the account if the account holder fails to produce his / her
>   identity number to the bank. The bank can verify the authenticity of
>   identity card immediately by scanning through computer through the main
>   database. This will put a check on those people who have so many 
>   accounts. Further, when the issue of electronic photo identity card is
>   the government can frame a rule so that every transaction of above Rs.
>   5,000/- or Rs.10,000/- in personal accounts are through cheques only and
>   individuals canít withdraw cash from bank if itís more than Rs. 
>   person can do all his/her purchasing and payments electronically through
>   Debit Cards or Credit Cards. Of course problems and hardships will arise
>   we will have to pay the price for cleaning up the society.
>   2. Biggest question arises here is how to and from where to start this
>   process? I feel that this process must start in phases. In the first 
>   all those people should be covered who have accounts in banks and this 
>   be done in all the states simultaneously. This first phase needs utmost
>   and cross verifications because it deals with those people who really 
>   and misuse their money. In the second phase those people will be covered
>   are not having any bank accounts. This phase will have another kind of
>   difficulty because it constitutes poor and illiterate people. But
>   economically they are harmless and I strongly believe that their
>   contribution in economic crimes is nil. The whole process can be safely
>   stretched to 3-4 years so that cross-verifications are ,in some cases,
>   carried out and rectified accordingly.
>   3. With this kind of a system I am confident that it will bring
>   in the transaction of money in India and people will not be able to hide
>   their black money. As with this kind of transparency government can see
>   is earning what and where the money is coming from. This will increase 
>   tax-base and tax evasion will be controlled with remarkable success.
>   4. Also the total cost in this issuance of electronic identity card to 
>   one billion Indian countrymen will not be more than twenty (20) billion
>   rupees . I am sure that the Indian Government can happily afford to 
>   that much amount of money in the span of 2-3 years. ( In case of any 
>   shortage government can seek monetary help from Laloo-Rabdi, Jayalalita
>   the like. They have enough money )
>   But the success of whole process needs some prerequisites. I will not 
>   for a strong political will because our politicians do not have that, or
>   at all they have any will, it is to make money by hook or by crook. So 
>   simplest things required are ÖÖÖ..
>   1.Expedite the process of computerization of banks in India so that 
>   are connected through networks.
>   2. It needs to make sure that the electronic identity card is not of 
>   quality and it lasts for years
>   3.Strong will of common people to accept the new system which will make
>   country prosper, else we will be condemned to leave a corrupt, polluted,
>   divided, poor, illiterate and undeveloped India for the posterity.
>   Jai Hind
>   Rajeev Sinha
>   USA

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