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Re: Vamsi:knowing what we say

[Topics under debate]: GOOD GOVERNANCE
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>From last couple of days Vamsi has been stressing on evil things done
by GOI
as far as telecom sector is concerned, I totally agree with him, it is
only telecom sector, rather whole business model (let it be
retail etc.) GOI/ state Govt. has created such an environment which
corrupt business practice heavily.

Even today its a big pain to operate a business (probably not with lala
style of retail business)in our country, you probably have to deal with
than 20 governmental agencies, which is ridiculous, worst part is
inspectors/governmental agents who come to visits your business are most
the time come only for bribe, and they really don't know there business.

You do have to deal with governmental agencies in US, but it is very
streamlined (People who are doing business in US would know that).

Even today to open a simple retail shop, to get approval from the local
govt. for that it takes on an average 3 months in India (It might vary
different cities), in US you can open a Corporation in half an hour
even visiting any Govt. office, you can get every thing done over the

I am not putting all these comparisons for people who would always
off and say that people have tendency to compare Indian system with US
system, rather I am pointing out some good things about business model
is followed over here in US, and we really need not reinvent the wheel,
is the system which works (now I've heard enough that just because a
works in US does not mean it will work in India).

Credit rating is one classic example, we don't have any official concept
this (it is there only in its very traditional form where people use old

reputation as credit). Due to which a particular set of people exploit
public money (by issuing stocks /bonds) and still comes out clean, as we

don't have any credit history for them.

We should rather go ahead and have public service history for each
(central/state/local), which can be made public as and when demanded by
people, any entrepreneur around who'd like to give thought over this



>From: vamsi@siliconcorp.com
>Reply-To: debate@indiapolicy.org
>To: debate@indiapolicy.org
>Subject: Re: Vamsi:knowing what we say
>Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:56:25 -0700 (PDT)
>[Topics under debate]: GOOD GOVERNANCE
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>Rajeev Manikoth wrote:
> > I would like to hear from you in detail of what your efforts to
> > Telecom are. Maybe I could do something here.
> >
>     Very good, I would be delighted if we can work together on this.
>can begin communicating directly.
>Oh regarding me saying anything positive about the Indian Technology
>environment, I am afraid that I cannot - no matter how hard I try.  For

>example, the US E-Commerce grew to $300 billion recently and India's is
>cross $1 billion.
>     What we have to understand is this, the procedure required to get
>clearances for Gateways is so unnecessary.  Indian companies are
>valuable time while their US counterparts are clearly establishing
>dominance.  This is a classical example of how India kills its own.
>the mental models of the law-makers have to change so that they give
>Economy a higher status (wealthier Indians = well we know what that
>may think we are moving forward but I ask the important question: who
>comparing ourselves to?  Antarctica?
>     Finally, you have totally ignored my point that unless India has a

>footing in 1st-tier technologies the growth in 2nd-tier technologies is

>unsustainable!!  This is a very, very important issue.
>     The fault is also with Indians like ourselves.  Even to this day,
>not seen you admit to the fact that GoI is the biggest evil that there
>it no more different than the British Raj in oppressing the Indian
>You have conveniently explained that once Gateway clearances are given
>everything would change without realizing that Indian companies will be

>stomped because there are many dominant forces in the area, already!
It is
>if we don't hold the GoI responsible for anything and the same attitude
>reflected in the polls, as well.  Maybe, even before the law-makers
>their mental models, we should change ours.  Praising a faulty and
>oppressive system is no good.  Constructive criticism would put us all
in a
>better situation and might even help in creating the most powerful and
>prosperous nation on the planet!!
>Vamsi M.

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