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Re: Misconceptions et al (by Ritu)

[Topics under debate]: GOOD GOVERNANCE
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    Since you have labored so much to explain to me that "we know it and we
don't need anyone to tell us........" and it has been discussed at length,

    India is a democracy: right to vote, etc.  And the people also know, like
you have stated, that they are being oppressed.  In a democracy, it is safe to
say that the people own the country.  How can you explain the contradiction
that what you own is also your oppressor?

    Don't explain away with things like illiteracy because you have just now
agreed that "everyone" knows.  You might have used the word "everyone"
carelessly but that was your doing.  I am merely trying to point out that
missing minor details add up to the big problems that are plaguing India.
Having a precise model of the problems is the first step but it seems even
this we have successfully betrayed.

Vamsi M.

Ritu Ko wrote:

> And you call my replies meandering!
> Vamsi, no one in this forum believes that the Indian citizens enjoy all
> the
> freedoms that are constitutionally guaranteed to us [and some that are
> not
> guaranteed but ought to be]. This is a subject that has been oft
> discussed,
> in all its various implications. You only need to consult the archives
> to
> reassure yourself on that point. You may safely stop beating the Telecom
> industry to a premature death.
>         Also, if one had faith in the commitment of GoI to preserve and
> protect the
> freedoms of citizens, one would not be a member of this forum. I wonder
> what
> gave you the idea that I labored under any such misapprehension. If you
> are
> a student of politics and run a business of your own [in fact even if
> you
> read the papers daily], you cannot help but be aware of the dismal
> record of
> our govt. when it comes to protecting individual liberties. I am certain
> I
> have never made any statement to the contrary.
>         As far as 'Bhaarat Maata ki jai' is concerned, I suggest we
> leave the topic
> alone. If you think that teaching a synthesizer to say it is the same,
> then
> you have no idea of what I am talking about. [And, believe me, I'm not
> trying to curtail your freedom of speech - I am merely attempting to
> save
> some time by acknowledging an unbridgeable gap in fundamental concepts.]
>         Talking of using reasoning skills [I hope you do remember your
> exhortation
> to do the same], what exactly are my misconceptions regarding individual
> freedoms? Kindly specify.
>         One more point before I wind up, I will be re-mailing my earlier
> letter to
> your personal address. This time I will insert your comments that
> prompted
> different parts of my reply. Your assumption that my letter was a
> carefully
> reasoned reply is correct. Please read it before you indulge in your
> predilection for editorial comments. Next time my rebuttal would not be
> quite so polite.
>       Sincerely,
>         Ritu C. Ko
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Vamsi M.

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