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Re: law and order


I am Antony from Kuala Lumpur, one of the onlookers you have been
encouraging to join the discussion. I am pretty new to your group having
received a few mails in the last two days.

>From the contents if these few mails I find that you seem to be tackling
issues at a micro level and your manifesto does not seem to be very
different from those of the current policy makers in India.

While I do agree that the Law and Order situation in India is far from
adequate and policies to that effect needs to be evolved and implemented,
does it not make sense to start at a more macro level? Find out what
socio-political environment is conducive for implementing the proposed
policies? Find out how other nations acheived the development / policy
framework/ ethics that seem to elude India?

I would have thought that a tracking the experiences of other
developed/developing  nations on key areas of interest (Policies and their
impact over a time-line) maybe a good place to start. With the wealth of
information available to from such a benchmarking excercise, it may be
easier to initiate a good discussion on the issue at hand.

Most everyone in India believe that India's problems are 'unique' and need a
're-invention of the wheel'. Is that true? Isn't there something that we can
learn from others?  Can those of us who have been lucky enough to experience
the socio-political enviromment in other  nations be ready to contribute to
creating this 'wheel' ?  Don't you think that instead of giving Indian
policy makers  a readymade set of policies which we think should be
implemented, it may make more sense to give them hard facts/information
which will help them to form better polcies?

I hope I didn't barge in and interrupt your enthusiatic discussion.


Antony Joseph
Kuala Lumpur

-----Original Message-----
From: Sanjeev Sabhlok <sabhlok@almaak.usc.edu>
To: india_policy@cinenet.net <>
Date: Tuesday, May 19, 1998 1:52 PM
Subject: law and order

>I have tentatively classified the points raised by Prem, Charu, and Kush
>into those meant for the Manifesto and the Agenda. Please correct me if I
>was wrong in this compilation. A lot of detail has been left out as well
>as subtleties, which will need to be dealt with at the Policy Framework
>level. These are now in purple in the respective places on the web. I have
>some concerns about the Uniform Civil code topic which was included
>earlier. But right now I will let it lie.
>I think that the law and order issue is highly correlated to three other
>areas: National Reconciliation, Electoral Reform and Economic Reform.
>Positive actions on these three will have positive spinoffs in this area,
>Please vet.
>[I notice that the Agenda is quite a hodge-podge at this stage: many of
>the points there at the moment are too minor to be included there: those
>will ultimately have to go into the Policy Framework for that particular
>sector/ Ministry.  Some points are very big and need specific detail. The
>Policy Framework would also have to include the specific steps that would
>be taken within the first 30 days.  Clearly we have yet covered only the
>fringe of governance and policy, and we need to keep on churning out all
>possible ideas at this stage (brainstorming), and keep debating.  We also
>need to get more views in from a more diverse population.
>New people who have joined, please do not be on-lookers ... This is your
>own group, to debate and contest ideas. Please participate.]
>For the Manifesto:
>Law and Order
>Vigorous efforts need to be made to raise the morale, competence, ethical
>behaviour and responsiveness of the Police, both through monetary
>incentives and improved training. The nexus between politicians,
>bureaucrats and the underworld, has to be completely destroyed.
>For the Agenda:
>Law and order
>1. Enhancing the educational qualifications for recruitment into the
>Police force and enhancing the salary as well as the training.
>2. Implementation of  the National Police Commission's recommendations.
>3. Implementation of the Vohra Committee recommendations.
>4. Requiring an enquiry by the Returning Officer to verify the Police
>   Records of all candidates.
>5. Modernizing and computerizing criminal records (this has come in
>separately elsewhere, but we will integrate all these points later)
>6. Strategies to improve public-Police interaction.
>7. Severe penalties to Police officials found using third degree