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Re: Slaughter in Gujarat

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I could't agree more with Sandeep.

Finally an intelligent analysis of the Gujarat tragedy!  The Government of
India has failed to bring the perpetrators of terrorist attacks to justice
on each and every occassion, unlike the Government of the United States.
There is no need for the people of the United States to act because they
have confidence in their goverment's ability to destroy the terrorists.
Conversely, the Indian people have no confidence in their government's
ability to destroy the menace of terrorism, and therefore feel they have no
alternative but to take matters into their own hands.

And you know the Indian way of thinking - "Eent ka jawab pathar se!".

>From: "Sandeep Hospet" <sandeeph@iname.com>
>Reply-To: debate@indiapolicy.org
>To: debate@indiapolicy.org
>Subject: Re: Slaughter in Gujarat
>Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 21:49:01 -0800 (PST)
>Please help make the Manifesto better, or accept it, and propagate it!
>-----Original Message-----
>From: NavinK@Gafri.com
>Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 13:25:20 -0800 (PST)
>To: debate@indiapolicy.org
>Subject: Slaughter in Gujarat
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Please help make the Manifesto better, or accept it, and propagate it!
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> >
> > IPI_Marker
> >
> > When thousands died in America on September 11th, most Americans were as
> > outraged as we were when we heard about the attack on the train in
> > There was a sudden hatred towards Moslems and some (about three) were
> > killed. Just compare to what we see now in our country. Agreed, innocent
> > people were killed; but does that justify killing another 50 innocents,
> > 100 of them? We did not see hundred or even 10 people get killed in any
> > "retaliation" in America.
> >
>I believe that the reaction to the Godhra carnage, condemanbale as it is,
>a consequence of the cumulative impact of goings-on in India over the last
>decade: terrorism in Kashmir, the daily massacres of innocents in the
>valley, the Indian state's ineffectiveness in protecting the lives of
>in Doda and elsewhere, the Kandahar hijack, the recent parliament attack
>etc coupled with the secularist subterfuge of blaiming Hindus for every ill
>plaguing the country. In contrast, Americans don't encounter provocation on
>almost a daily basis. Sept 11 happened out of the blue.
>Even then, it's not as if the Americans did not react. They did and they
>in the right manner: by eliminating an estimated 5000 terrorists in
>Afghanistan. The overwhelming majority of Americans back their government's
>action in Afghanistan.
>The right reaction to the burning alive of women  and children in a locked
>up train compartment would have been for Indian law enforcement to
>relentlessly track down the pepetrators of the brutality and bring them to
>justice swiftly. If then a crossborder angle has been established in the
>heinous act, Indian government should have followed the American example:
>share the evidence with the world community and declare histilities against
>the offending country. Unfortunately, mobs took over and targetted innocent
>Muslims in retaliation for the killing of innocent Hindus; and Indian
>government lost an opportunity to nail Pakistan's nefarious role yet again.
> > It tells a lot about the two "democracies" doesn't it? The difference
> > between our civil societies is as wide as it can be. We have showed to
> > world that we are no different from other savage nations. What's the
> > in having a voting system, and gloating over it? World's greatest
> > Ha! What a joke!
> >
>This is needless breast-beating. First off, nobody claims that India is the
>world's greatest democracy -- perhaps it would be a joke if Pakistan
>that distinction. :) It is said that India is the world's largest
>and largest isn't necessarily the greatest.
>Admittedly, Indian democracy is imperfect and immature. But then please
>remember that the Americans had a headstart over us in the matter both of
>throwing out the yoke of colonialism as well as establishing democracy.
>are a democracy 225 years old. And it's not as if American democracy did
>have  its teething troubles. Americans even fought a civil war.
>To me the very fact that Indian democracy is sought to be compared to what
>really is the world's greatest democracy points to the fact that Indian
>democracy has arrived, though warts and all.

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