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RE: Arundhati Roy on Juriprudence



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Mahatma Gandhi, more than 50 years ago, showed that non-violence works. And
Rev. Martin Luther King showed that non-violence when applied to
civil-liberties movement works. If the Palestinians leaders had taken this
path, all problems would have been resolved long ago, with no hatred in
anyone's heart. But no: Arafat took up the gun (and still carries one about
his person),--and look what happened. The same is true for Northern Ireland;
the same is true for all "freedom" struggles around the world.

If Israel shoots unarmed Palestinians (protesting peacefully) asking for a
homeland, the very next day the world would have crushed Israel into
submission; but not now. Frankly many world leaders have lost all sympathy
for Arafat and his mob. You take up the gun, get ready for death; if you
bomb innocent people in a shopping centre, be prepared for a retaliation
that takes out your innocent people. Violence begets violence. And
Palestinians with rocks and sling-shots will never get it in their thick
skulls. This not the way to win the war. Use your head, Arafat!

-----Original Message-----
From: Rajiv K. Shukla [mailto:rajiv_shukla@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:47 PM
To: debate@indiapolicy.org
Subject: Re: Arundhati Roy on Juriprudence


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>
> If you see striking similarity of "dissent" then it
> is exactly that!
> Dissent without direction, without any clearcut
> alternative! These
> people are so anti-west that they are completly
> blinded by hate.
> Anything that challenges principles of western
> civilization causes
> cheers among them! Even if it means the absurdity of
> justifying Taliban
> and deliberate attack on innocent civilians!

'West' created may problems for India. Your 'west'
flourished at the expense of India and other Asian
countries. Do not forget that. Some people are more
sensitive to that fact than the others. Even today we
deal with their selfish double standards all the time
in all sorts of areas, such as, being told not to
punish Pakistan, unfair WTO deals, unfair patent laws,
unfair non-proliferation treaties, racial
discrimination, etc.

>
> >
> > I think there is a need to understand the deeper
> implications of
> > "People
> > rarely win wars,
> > governments rarely lose them". What she means to
> say is that people
> > rarely
> > want wars and that once in war, whatever the
> outcome of the  war,
> > it's
> > invariably the people who lose. Nobody is trying
> to justify
> > talibansim here
> > but intellectuals should understand that
> "civilized" governments like
> > America's cannot practice talibanism to other
> countries.
> >
>
> Utter nonsense! "People rarely want wars!" Which
> people? The
> palestinian people? Do they want peace? Or the
> people who killed each
> other during partition of India during independence?
> Or the people who
> brought down the disputed structure in Ayodhya? Look
> at the
> pronouncement made by Muslim clergies at the Hajj!
> Do they want peace?
> Where are you living? In the caves in Afghanistan?
> The people who fight
> in the wars actually are not "people" according to
> you or what? Or do
> they come from some other planet? How can wars
> happen without some
> people wanting them?

The Palestinians are the most discriminated against
community in the world in the last 50 years. They
deserve justice. How can they get justice? It hasn't
happened in the last 50 years. It probably won't
happen without more bloody conflicts. Even then it may
not happen. It's insulting and insensitive to suggest
that they don't want peace. Who's going to give them
peace?

Also, you are taking the words too literally. Most
people DO NOT want war. It's too painful in many many
ways. Suggesting otherwise would be stupid.

- Rajiv



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