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Re: indias pakistan troubles

Please help make the Manifesto better, or accept it, and propagate it!

We do try to defend Kashmiries and the land of Kashmir itself.  However,
sad truth that Indians aren't aware of is that most of the terrorists
disgruntled Kashmiries themselves.  The local population doesn't want
to do with India.  They pick up arms and along with their supporters
comprise Pakistani nationals, people from PoK, Afghanistan, Sudan, etc.)
wage a war/insurgency against India.  If most of the people were armed,
it is
they who would shoot down our BSF guards and other jawans.

How did this come to be--can Pakistan's argument actually be right?

Well, yes and no.  Pakistan is correct in saying that if a plebiscite
held, the majority of Kashmiries would not opt for accesion to the
Union.  However, it is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to recognize that this is due
to 10
years of Islamization and 40 years of simply being disgruntled.  The
have been kicked out or simply killed, and Islamic Fundamentalism has
like hell.  In fact, right across the LoC, there is not even a single
Sikh or
Hindu--it is 100% Muslim; and not just Muslim, it's "Islamist."

Moreover, India has followed Article 370 of its own Constitution which
prohibits Indian nationals from settling in Kashmir.  Therefore, there
been no Indian presense in Kashmir, Kashmiries themselves are
Islamist and dislike India, and our jawans fight the population which
undying support from Pakistan.

If the plebiscite were held in 1949, there would be no doubt that almost
Kashmiries--even the ones in PoK and the Northern Areas of Pakistan
Skardu, etc.) would want merger with India.  However, Pashtoons and Pak.

nationals invaded, Pakistan was given a UN order to vacate those areas
so that
a plebiscite could be taken.  Pak., for the sake of it's own interests
did not
vacate the lands and the plebisicte was not held.  It incorporated those
with an unjust Constitution and no plebiscite was held.  Over the years
decades, Kashmiries (who were never really pro-India anyway) became less

pro-India and so it was in India's interest (and still is) to not hold a


The way to solve the problem is to rescind Article 370, let the 400,000
go back; keep a huge jawan force there to protect them, and start
settling in
Indians from other states to change the demography the way China did in
Tibet.  (Tibet is only 50% Tibetan now; the other 50% is ethnic Han

But, good, honest Indians don't know this, and our politicians--well,
that's a
whole other debate.


Ashish Hanwadikar wrote:

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> Please help make the Manifesto better, or accept it, and propagate it!

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> Hi,
>     One thing I have always failed to understand why there is a
> question about ownership of Kashmir by India vs. Pakistan. To my mind
> the question was completely settled when Kashmiri Maharaja signed
> Accession to India with full support majority leadership in Kashmir.
> successfuly defended the Kashmir from Pakistani attack.
>     What about the Kashmiri people whom we are treating like a
> in the whole game? Best way would be to defend with full power of
> Indian Military their right to life, property and liberty as we
> promised when we accepted the Accession. Otherwise, nobody (other
> states) will take India's promise of protection seriously.
>      Also, we need to allow Kashmiri People to protect themselves. We
> need to allow ownership of Arms by Kashmiri People to protect their
> life and property. Years of Military presence in Kashmir has not
> yielded any benefits. Kashmiri people themselves are the in the best
> position to defend themselves. State of Kashmir should make sure that
> Arms ownership by ordinary people do not cause any large scale
> and no laws are broken by anybody (that is nobody should harm other
> unless they need to defend themselves there and there itself).
> Regards,
> Ashish

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