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Re: On the nuclear weapons issue: reply to Vamsi M.

Please help make the Manifesto better, or accept it, and propagate it!
In addition to what Dr. Roy pointed out, note that the U.S. and Russia
made peace when Russia was in economic trouble. West & East
Germany made peace (unified) when East Germany was in economic

Pakistan has been in dire economic trouble recently. So I reiterate
my stance that now is a better time than ever to attempt to negotiate
peace with Pakistan than ever before.

There are clearly ideological differences in politics and culture, as
Vamsi mentioned, but the above examples had similar (if not more
extreme) differences. Where there is a will there is a way. In the
case of India and Pakistan, I just don't see a will.

Rahul Mittal

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. Subroto Roy" <drsubrotoroy@id.eth.net>
To: <debate@indiapolicy.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: On the nuclear weapons issue: reply to Vamsi M.

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> Please help make the Manifesto better, or accept it, and propagate it!

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> I have sketched the only long-term peacable outcome I can see;  we
> go
> back to "unification" with Pakistan, merely a confederation or a
> market.    Other worse examples have made peace, e.g. in Europe or
> between
> the United States and Russia.    Much depends on the current flow of
> events
> regarding the evolution of Islamic societies in the 21st Century.
> Of course, on the other hand, the 50-year civil war on the Indian
> subcontinent may continue, fanned by Western arms dealers and their
> local
> agents, and given the stupidity of alleged strategic thinkers on both
> sides,
> may even lead to an exchange of cities, so e.g. Lahore and Karachi get

> destroyed in return for Mumbai and Delhi.
> Calcutta may then resume its role as the capital of India once again.
> A Cal resident
> PS the last sentence is dark gallows humour, nothing more, for anyone
> who
> may require an explicit explanation.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sdcvamsi@yahoo.com <sdcvamsi@yahoo.com>
> To: debate@indiapolicy.org <debate@indiapolicy.org>
> Date: Sunday, October 28, 2001 5:07 AM
> Subject: Re: On the nuclear weapons issue
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> >Please help make the Manifesto better, or accept it, and propagate
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> >
> >I generally disagree on a few points stated below by Dr. Roy.  First,

> India
> should focus on the world
> >stage rather than Pakistan for its defense issues.  In fact, Military

> programs and Space programs MUST
> >be combined within India or at least occupy same importance in Delhi.

> The
> key question in this century
> >is whether Indian Defense programs can generate enough research and
> technologies to give Indian
> >Industries and corporations the advantage they need?!  That is the
> nature
> of wars within this century
> >(on Earth and in Space) and Indian Military has a big role in it!!
> fact is that some countries like
> >US and Britain have this model where their corporations benefit
> immensely
> from defense research - all
> >other models seem to be weaker unless we can come up with something
> better
> where Government funding is
> >involved which can also benefit the private sector!!
> >
> >Second, I have been arguing that India should deploy low yield nukes
> (NOT
> nuclear weapons in the
> >traditional sense).  India must continue to upgrade its military to
> enhance
> reconnaissance, mobility,
> >and attack capabilities.  New developments in militaries of the world

> demands such a readiness.
> >
> >Third, the union between India and Pakistan as proposed by Dr. Roy is

> impossible given the ideological
> >differences in politics and cultures....if anything India and
> must
> drift toward such a union by
> >some other means and over a longer term!
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >Vamsi M.

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