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From: sdcvamsi@yahoo.com <sdcvamsi@yahoo.com>
To: debate@indiapolicy.org <debate@indiapolicy.org>
Date: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: the truth about America....


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>I do not know who Priyo is and for all we know s/he could be an
American
Agent
>pretending to be an Indian Immigrant and trying to spread his own
agenda.
If,
>however, s/he is really an Indian Immigrant then your American masters
would
>be quiet happy that yet another immigrant has been assimilated
successfully!
>
>As for me "being gone by now if some American was pointing a gun to my
back",
>I own firearms not so much as to protect my life but to protect my
decency
to
>think on my own and to keep me free from becoming another servile
immigrant!
>
>Sincerely,
>Vamsi M.
>
>Priyo wrote:
>
>> As a past participant to the India policy debates, I always had a =
>> healthy respect for Vamsi's views.  I cannot believe that he would
make
>> =
>> a comment like this in his post.  The Romanian dispatch may be a =
>> propaganda or whatever, but compared to the level of atrocities that
was
>> =
>> perpetrated on the US, hate crimes and assault on minority businesses
=
>> were minimal and I happen to know as I live in New York and remain =
>> active in the community.
>>
>> Guys like Vamsi love to live in the US but also love to criticize it
=
>> whenever they can.   If the Americans really pointed their guns at
your
>> =
>> back you would have been a history long time ago my dear friend.  If
=
>> what happened on September 11th had happened in India, the biggest =
>> democracy, thousands of Muslims would have been slaughtered by now in
=
>> riots on mere suspicion and thousands more after confirmation.  Yes,
it
>> =
>> is true, a number of unfortunate hate crimes did take place and some
=
>> lives were lost, but compared to the scale of devastation this
country =
>>
>> suffered those atrocities are insignificant.  I happen to believe our
=
>> leaders and the media did an excellent job in keeping bigotry and =
>> xenophobia under control and ordinary Americans, across the land, =
>> displayed extraordinary virtues in patience and tolerance.  In many =

>> places hundreds of Americans have gathered around Islamic centers in
=
>> symbolic gestures of protection and embrace of American Muslims.  I
know
>> =
>> it first hand.  In many cities, Christian congregations have started
=
>> wearing hijab to identify with fellow Muslim women.  There is no =
>> comparison between the voices of peace and hate in these matters.  It
is
>> =
>> time that we acknowledge that the freedom, opportunities and the =
>> tolerance of contrasting viewpoints that characterize the American =
>> psyche is fairly unique in this world and were instrumental for guys
=
>> like Vamsi and I to reach these shores and stay here.  So please do
not
>> =
>> shit where you eat.=20
>>
>> As an Indian-American I am proud to acknowledge that I feel safer
here =
>>
>> than in the back streets of our Indian cities and I am willing to
give =
>>
>> credit where credit is due.    There is nothing more untrue for Vamsi
to
>> =
>> state that "there is little respect for anyone that seems
"un-American"
>> =
>> ".   I do not know where he lives, and perhaps in the boondocks of =
>> Georgia or West Virginia or Oklahoma it is so,  but here in this
great =
>>
>> city of New York and many other similar communities like such
comments =
>>
>> are laughable.  There is nothing uniquely American here except hot
dogs
>> =
>> and coke and beer cans.  And that's what provides the city its
vibrancy
>> =
>> and pizzazz.=20
>>
>> It is time that we refrain from making these irresponsible and =
>> inherently hypocritical statements.  We Indians are masters of
criticism
>> =
>> and faultfinding and not much action thereafter.  In my many years of
=
>> involvement in the Indian community and seeing first hand the endless
=
>> criticism and bickering that originate in the finest educated and =
>> intellectual minds, I grow increasingly pessimistic about our ability
to
>> =
>> create lasting values despite best intentions.  That's why we cross
the
>> =
>> seas and then drown in a pond.   Please Vamsi, at least you, should
not
>> =
>> be a prey to such simplistic prognostications.   America has many
faults
>> =
>> and criticizable weaknesses but overall it is the best place to live
in
>> =
>> the world and let us give it some credit.  You know more about that
than
>> =
>> anyone else.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
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>Sincerely,
>Vamsi M.



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