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what rupee amount do you reckon is a reasonable salary for an MLA?

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From: "Dr. Sanjeev Sabhlok" <sanjeev@sabhlokcity.com>
To: <debate@indiapolicy.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 6:50 PM
Subject: OK.


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> Dear Umesh:
>
> All right then. All that you want is already there in India. You will
> receive Rs 10000 appx per month plus a huge number of hidden perks. The
> fact that a vast majority of politicians are corrupt (or connive at it)
> then must be due to the fact that Indians are genetically corrupt. I guess
> there is no solution then to India's problems.
>
> In any case, you can now join politics then and contest parliamentary
> elections next time. I hope you enjoy raising funds directly from the
> individual public (my experience is that  people ASK for money, drinks and
> blankets, and very rarely have I seen anyone donate: in your cases maybe
> exceptions will apply, but remember that these will remain exceptions to
> the rule).
>
> Please do regale us with your various experiences in fund-raising from
poor
> villagers and slum dwellers, and how you resolved the pressures which I
> have seen operate in India in my many years of closely watching and
working
> with political leaders at all levels, pre- and post-election. I eagerly
> await a detailed monograph with all facts and figures, from you.
>
> At 07:33 PM 03/08/2000 -0800, Umesh wrote:
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> >I have strong objection to making fuzzy statements like
> >"...the political will to pay our representatives a compensation which is
> >comparable to the investment made in contesting elections..."
> >This kind of statement can never be the basis to formulate policies on
what
> >a law maker ought to earn.
> >The compensation for a law maker certainly ought to be reasonable enough
to
> >allow him/her to pay his bills, and by paying bill, one must never
include
> >the bills that come out of spending in election campaigns or expensive
> >parties. Paying bills simply means what it means to the ordinary
citizens,
> >such as paying bills for electricity, water and other essential
utilities,
> >and everything else that a head of a family earns a living for.
> >A reasonable compensation similar to a class one officer such as
yourself,
> >ought to be enough for a law maker. After five years, if the law maker
fails
> >to win an election, too bad, government is not responsible for that. If a
> >former law maker ends up becoming jobless, he/she should be able to claim
> >some minimal living allowance with the condition that the individual
works
> >to find a gainful employment and once he is gainfully employed again he
> >should not get anything until he/she reaches the old age of say 70, that
is
> >when he should be qualified for a proposed social security benefit just
like
> >every other old citizen of India.
> >Beyond that, making visits to his/her constituency ought to come as part
of
> >the official responsibility of the legislator, and appropriate funding
> >subject to accounts auditing, ought to be done in order to ensure that
the
> >law maker is provided with the necessary means to do his/her job, but
none
> >of the money allocated for purposes other then his personal income ends
up
> >in his/her pocket, or in the pocket of his/her friends. This is public
> >money.
> >As for the numerous requests for donations that a legislator gets as you
> >say, his/her compensation should have nothing to do with that. A
legislator
> >is free to make donations (tax deductible in some cases) out of his/her
> >personal income just like you and I are, and the extent of his personal
> >donations should purely be determined by how generous he/she is, how much
> >wealth he/she has generated through legal enterprise, and what his/her
> >personal liabilities are. The talk of fixing compensation of a law maker
> >should never get into such topics.
> >As far as election campaign expenses are concerned, there is no excuse,
this
> >has to be fought by local people through local organization, raising
money
> >from local citizens to whatever extent it is possible, with complete
> >accountability of how the money was raised, who gave how much money, and
> >that no big corporation bought election for one or the other individual
> >candidate. But this later topic is a separate subject that must be
discussed
> >under election system reform, and should have nothing to do with what a
law
> >maker earns.
> >Those who wish to get a return for the money they spend running for a
> >elected office (if they spend personal money at all), through higher
> >compensation or corrupt practices don't belong here, and must think of
some
> >other for-profit enterprise where they can afford to make profit without
the
> >possibility of going to jail. To me, an ordinary citizen, who is
compelled
> >with the call of duty to serve his nation as a public official, does
raise
> >money by his shear ability to energize local population to donate money
for
> >his campaign fund, which is a separate legal entity accountable to the
> >public as well as election commission. He uses this legally raised money
to
> >run his campaign and not dip on his personal retirement savings.
Therefore,
> >once the election is won, he does not have to indulge into corrupt
practices
> >to make up for his personal loss.
> >You can criticize this approach as being too difficult, impractical, or
> >simplistic, but nonetheless, this is the right approach, which offers a
> >level playing field to every citizen.
> >More later.
> >Umesh Tiwari
> >
> >
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