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Re: Suggestions for ---- NIT (supplemental income) Project outline

Please help make the Manifesto better, or accept it, and propagate it!
Thanks v. much, Ravink and Navaneethan for the suggestions. Today, I had
some discussions with some Plg. Comm officials in Delhi who appreciate the
concept but feel that there is a lot to be done to make this project
'saleable' even as an experimental project.  I do not know if it is my job
to sell such ideas to anyone, but will try. Two States is out of my reach.
You or others on IPI may like to 'sell' it to someone else in some other

BTW, the ***final*** copy of the NIT paper (submitted to Plg. Comm., and
many others) is at the IPI publications page. Virus has possibly been
removed, but be careful! SS

----- Original Message -----
From: Ravink <ravink@rolta.com>
> I agree with Navaneethan Sundaramoorthy.the NIT projetc should be tried in
> more
> than one places..
> RAvin
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Navaneethan Sundaramoorthy <navanee@ee.byu.edu>
> To: <debate@indiapolicy.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 9:45 PM
> Subject: Suggestions for ---- NIT (supplemental income) Project outline
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Please help make the Manifesto better, or accept it, and propagate it!
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Dr. Sanjeev Sabhlok wrote:
> > One block has been shortlisted in principle for consideration for the
> > Experimental project on NIT. As this is still at the conceptual stage,
> > discussion on IPI is acceptable. Kindly furnish views which will be
> > into account in the project preparation. SS
> Dear Dr.Sanjeev & Friends,
> Since "this is still at the conceptual stage", I'd like to make some
> suggestions.
>  1) It might be a good idea to do this experiment at more than just
>     one place ( atleast 2 or more ).
>     Reason 1) The results of the project can be analysed more thoroughly.
>        Moreover the results --benefits, success or failure--can be
>        relied upon with more confidence than when the project is
>        done at only one place. Many like Venu Gopal,Dharma Tejus
>                (including me) have many concerns about whether the Govt
>                Machinery will be able to manage such huge tasks without
>                much leakage, corruption,etc.... Strong Positive results
>                from more than one place of implementation could convince
>                everyone about the viability of such a project on a
>                national scale 'cos as someone pointed out
>        "....we are not doing an experiment in a lab.....". If the
>                project does not succeed, we cant go and try again...
>     Reason 2) In order to prevent people from saying, "it might work
>                in Meghalaya but not in other parts of the country where
>        the culture, economy, mindset of the people are very
>        different...."
>     Reason 3) Even if the project is implemented more thoroughky in place
>        & not so carefully in another, we would get an idea about
>        what would happen when it is implemented throughout the
>                country.
>                Sloppy implementation ( if it happens unfortunately :-| may
>                also help us detect areas where more care should be laid
>                for a national implementation.
> > (2) Conduct of a base line survey
> > In order to evaluate the success of the project, a bench-mark survey of
> > those below the poverty line has to be carried out in the Block. The C &
> > Department has already carried out a survey to determine those below the
> > poverty line. Unfortunately, the size of the population below the
> > line in this survey is extremely high, being in the range of upto 87%.
> > Therefore, a  sample survey  needs to be carried out under the
> > of experts such as faculty from NEHU.
> > (3) Econometric model
> > Due to the extreme difficulty of directly determining the incomes of the
> > poor, an econometric model which predicts the income of the respondent
> > based on proxies such as occupation, land ownership, asset ownership,
> > electrification of household, etc., would have to be approved. Experts
> > working in the area would have to agree upon a reasonable model which
> > be incorporated in an appropriate computer software to be designed for
> > purpose.
> .............
> > (6) Data entry
> > After administering the survey, data would be entered in an approved
> > software at the Block level. Since the Mylliem Block has already got a
> > Community Information Centre from the Ministry of Information Technology
> > would be relatively easy for this to be done there. However, all 32
> > are to get CICs within two years.
> ...........
> >
> > (11) Evaluation
> > At intervals of 3, 6, 9, and 12 months after disbursal, a Sample Ssurvey
> > would be carried out to determine the behavior of the poor with respect
> > the money disbursed to them, as well as to evaluate the effect of this
> > disbursal on their income level and quality of life.
> >
> 2) As part of this project, some kind of PIN or Citizen ID ( i prefer this
> name ), should also be issued. Of course, this might not affect NIT in any
> way ( +ve or -ve ). But Citizen ID is something that India definitely
> needs. With such a huge population, it is very important that we take
> accurate stock of our present status -- in terms of population, economic
> status, illiteracy,.... -- before we introduce any revolutionary measures
> for the development of our country. A basic necesitty for effective
> planning would be accurate (fairly) statistics about the number &
> condition ( status ) of all people. Reasons for a Citizen ID would  be :
>     Reason 1)  It would make a lot of sense to introduce an Integrated
> InfoBase of all Indians. Currently different depts of central & state
> govts are trying to maintain various forms of ID for individuals :
>     * Ration Card ( this is still an important form of ID used in
>                    many state & central govt offices )
>     * Voter's ID ( with Voter Photo ID cards )
>     * Tax Payer ID
>     * Driver's License ( with recent computerised license cards..)
> and myriad other forms of ID for different purposes.
>     Reason 2)  From a Computer Engg's point of view i can clearly see the
>                 usefulness of a common Integrated Citizen ID that could be
>                 used for all the above purposes & many more ( like exam
>                 registration nos -- nowadays many exam results are
>                 available on the Internet. Registration nos can instead be
>                 Citizen IDs. Banks can get past history of
>                 applicants by easily requesting for past history
>                 ( criminal, credit... ) corresponding to a Citizen ID.
>                 People may infact be more responsible when they know some
>                 "Big Brother" ( or even Almighty ) is watching them &
>                 their every actions.........
>                 .................
>     Reason 3)  Introducing this kind of ID along with NIT can help people
>                 ( and politicians ) understand the need for accountability
>                 & the need for an Integrated InfoBase of all citizens that
>                 would help proper planning for the future.
> --navanee
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