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Re: Fw: article on corruption in India

Please help make the Manifesto better, or accept it, and propagate it!
Corruption will not go till politicians are forced by us to be corrupt. All
the outstanding IAS officers in India (and there are ***hundreds*** of
them) have failed to make a long-term dent as all good systems are
overturned or blocked ***by politicians.*** 

It is amazing to see so much excellent advice offered in notesheets in
files by IAS officers. Most of these suggestions are over-ruled by
Ministers, usually by CMs. I have seen so many such cases, I don't believe
the bureaucracy can be held responsibile for the mess in India (by and large).

And our politicians are corrupt because we the citizens refuse to pay them
a decent salary (as a first approximation to the complex problem). So I
always pin the blame of the root of corruption in India on our citizens.
Even after 2 years of saying this on IPI, almost none have understood this:
all blame this or that. Everyone evades personal responsibility.

When our CMs and PMs insists on honesty, for ever, the country will be
cleaned up in 1 day. We have to work for that stage of governance. In the
meanwhile we have to be grateful to our Vittals for doing a great job.

At 06:17 AM 6/21/00 -0700, NP Singh wrote:
>Please help make the Manifesto better, or accept it, and propagate it!
>In a message dated 6/20/00 9:06:13 PM Central Daylight Time, 
>ramn@adelphia.net writes:
>> This is a very interesting article that appeared in the Industry
>>  Standard...[6.19.2000]
>>  Ungreasing Palms In India
>>  An anticorruption crusader discovers the Internet cuts bureaucracy and
>>  bribes.
>>  By Monika Halan
>>  To be a common man in India is expensive. Need a phone, or gas for your 
>>  or electricity for your factory? Pay up. The palms of corrupt government 
>>  officials are outstretched.
>> (deleted) 
>the 12.5 million government employees. Corruption is a public secret: 
>>  Everyone knows, but no one has wanted to say anything about it. Until now.
>>  Nagraj Vittal took over the CVC in September 1998. The commission had
>>  sending annual reports to Parliament for 35 years, but they languished 
>Dealing with corruption need not be a one man, one time issue, though it is 
>better than it being nobody's issue. Corruption and disregard of the laws, 
>especially by those, whose job it is to uphold the rule of law, goes to the 
>very heart  of the issues that make India poor and backward. No amount of 
>economic reforms aimed at reducing poverty and stimulating growth is ever 
>going to work if investors fear losing their capital when the government and 
>the legal system is unable to enforce contracts and property rights. If I 
>have a million dollars to invest I am much better off earning 5% interest in 
>U.S. bank deposit than investing in say building a house in Delhi for rental 
>income or investing in a business in India, for the simple reason that it is 
>just not worth the hassle of dealing with the corruption in the Delhi 
>Development Authority and the Delhi Electricity Board. If somebody wrongs me 
>in my business or a tenant refuses to vacate my property there is no 
>practical legal remedy worth the name to protect my interests, unless I am 
>well connected or I have the nerve or the inclination to pass 100 rupee
>to court house clerks under the very nose of Your Honor. Corruption and 
>Lawlessness in India is stifling enterprise and scaring investors more than 
>the politicians' attachment to Socialism. Whether Socialism causes
>or not is not my concern here.
>Thankful as we are for one Vittal here, a T.N. Seshan there, these people 
>will make little difference unless the government in right earnest goes
>setting its house in order. Why should the public have to go to the CVC with 
>their complaints.  He may be a good man, Mr. Vittal is not omnipresent much 
>less omnipotent. We must demand, and we must get, a mechanism in each 
>government office, department, police station and court house for people to 
>be able to make a complaint against rogue public servants and get a response 
>from a person with authority in a reasonable time. This is how government 
>works in America and England and every other advanced nation of the world
>this is how we must make it work in India, if we are ever to have the hope
>saving our system from total decay and disintegration.
>As things stand today, the public's access is totally cut off from the
>in charge and authority. You need a broker to even get to see your 
>legislator. I remember at one time the then DDA vice chairman Jagmohan used 
>to hold a "Durbar" where the harrassed Delhites used to go with their 
>greivances. (Now the term "Durbar" itself was sickening, even in the second 
>half of the twentieth century). What was really needed was a Public
>Office or a Grievance Cell reporting to the highest official. It is
>that local mechanisms exist in our government offices to handle people's 
>complaints and they should work with transparency and accountability. A 
>proactive judge in the Supreme Court or a sincere CVC with a website is
not a 
>lasting or complete solution to our mess.   
>(deleted to save space)
>But the following quotes of Vittal's are too important to delete:
>>  "The ideal government should be small, moral, accountable, responsible, 
>>  transparent," says Vittal. He wants to apply information technology in 
>>  "I'm just doing my duty," adds Vittal. "I have no other agenda. I have
>>  full life and this post was unexpected. Now, I'm just doing my job. I'm 
>>  focusing on that."
>This is the National Debate on System Reform.       debate@indiapolicy.org
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This is the National Debate on System Reform.       debate@indiapolicy.org
Rules, Procedures, Archives:            http://www.indiapolicy.org/debate/