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Re: compulsory education

Please help make the Manifesto better, or accept it, and propagate it!
In our work in Ranga Reddy District in andhra pradesh in th e field of
eductaion there is one persistent thought that keeps coming to us.
Parents of illeterate childiren are invariably illiterate.  they do not have
the "culture" of literacy at home. when the child comes home from school the
parent does not underatnd the problems of literacy.  we have had innumerable
instances where the parent did not KNOW that the pencil was an important
input in the schme of things.  parent training in compulsory education is
important.  nOt merely incentivising or punishment.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tiwari, Umesh K <UKTiwari@pcgb.com>
To: 'debate@indiapolicy.org' <debate@indiapolicy.org>
Date: Sunday, January 23, 2000 12:40 AM
Subject: Re.: compulsory education

>Please help make the Manifesto better, or accept it, and propagate it!
>I must admit that I have not followed this thread too closely, even though
>might have a thing or two to say in this subject. In fact while to coming
>work this morning, as usual I had NPR (National Public Radio) on, and what
>caught my attention was the talk on the radio about an experiment being
>carried out (I forget which particular town they talked about) in some
>of California, specific cases were discussed, as always, there were
>supporters and detractors of the experiment, and they say, even the state
>considering bringing up a legislation to implement this experiment, which
>comes very close to the Compulsory Education debate of this forum.
>This was about forcing parents to be accountable to ensure their kids
>(already enrolled in public schools I suppose) don't miss classes for
>whatever reasons. Initially parents would be informed, then summoned to the
>office of, I think they said City Attorney, and as a last resort, parents
>would even be pulled into a court, and the judge could levy a fine, force
>the parents to take mandatory parenting classes conducted by the department
>of social services, and if the parents don't seem to comply or reign in on
>their disobedient children, then they could even face jail term. I think I
>clearly heard the reporter said at least two people have been imprisoned
>since this ordinance came into being some six months ago, and now people
>talking about bringing even the children alongwith the parents within the
>scope so that they are awarded disciplinary punishment for their
>non-compliance with school attendance requirements.
>I know these issues are very controversial, but in a country such as the
>United States, such experiments getting carried out tells a lot about how
>difficult it is to find a nicer and freer way to impart basic education to
>all children, and yes sometimes parents, despite their best intentions, are
>the problem due to their ignorance, lack of minimum resources to even feed,
>dress up and send their kids to school, and a caring resource provider
>(obviously the government) with a disciplinary stick (can be defined to
>suite requirement and laws can be enacted to prevent misuse) have to be
>looked at.
>Lofty ideals of not allowing governments to force anything, or blaming
>act of government as being corrupt is like walking away from the problem,
>and ignoring those who cannot help themselves. I think education has to be
>compulsory. Educated and wealthy people should be allowed to choose from
>among various private schools provided such schools don't teach terrorism
>like some Madersa's of POK, and that's where Government needs to enforce
>some regulatory standards. For others, government needs to provide fully
>funded public schools, with most of administrative controls to local
>body of City or village administration. In fact, wherever possible, most of
>the funding for the local schools ought to come from taxes, say property
>taxes, of the local residents,and government should fulfill the gap between
>what can be raised locally and what is required to run the school, and the
>amount of government assistance can vary between wealthy neighborhood and
>poor and backward neighborhood.
>As for as enforcement of Mandatory education, I see nothing wrong in the
>government requiring parents to send their kids to schools, private or
>public rather then exploiting them in child labor or simply abusing them
>to their backwardness and ignorance. It should be school teachers and
>administration that ought to control initiation of any action, and city
>birth records that ought to verify that every kid that is born is enrolled
>in any school public or private at the appropriate age, and if not, the
>parents are made answerable. As for the quality of education, once you give
>control of the school to locally elected body of people's representatives,
>and provide sufficient funding by the government, and keep this issue in
>forefront of public-political debate, slowly, situation will improve, and
>nobody other then the parents, who would indirectly control the school
>administration through their elected city administration, would be ensuring
>that quality education is imparted to their children.
>Umesh Tiwari
>Umesh Tiwari
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