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Please help make the Manifesto better, or accept it, and propagate it!
We missed the bus in 1971 when we failed to convert the LOC into an
international border, thanks to Mrs Indira Gandhi's belief in Z. Bhutto.
Let's face it: Pakistan has been in control of half of kashmir ever since
1947, and it is just no good parotting that all of kashmir is an
inalienable part of india. converting the loc into an international border
will be the only solution to get rid of this cancerous problem. 

But first, two conditions will have to come about:

1.  there has to be a strong political govt. in india, one with a
substantial majority in both houses of parliament.

2. pakistan has to have a democratically elected government.

Once these conditions are on the ground, then the GOI should go on a
massive PR blitz to convince us that the best way out is to
internationalize the LOC. There should be no secret back door deals --
everthing taransparent & open.

Assaam & Punjab won't run away from India. The conditions in kashmir and in
these two states is completely different. The only common factor is that
the problems in all these border states stems from Mrs gandhi's wrong
policies of confrontation with the people in these states.

Indrajit Barua.

>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:45:20 -0800 (PST)
>From: Naveenkj@aol.com
>To: debate@indiapolicy.org
>Subject: Pakistan...let's consider my solution
>Reply-To: debate@indiapolicy.org
>Please help make the Manifesto better, or accept it, and propagate it!
>   Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:43:53 EST
>    I want to make a note that I did not say I wanted to get rid Kashmir 
>because it is of less economic significance.  I merely said that even if we 
>were to give it up, it wouldn't hurt our economy: one because very less is 
>contributed by the region anyway, and our military, intelligence spending 
>will be reduced.  
>    This is all I'm proposing regarding Kashmir:  We will have to form a 
>diplomatic solution with Pakistan.  We will have to sit with the Pakistani 
>leaders, and along with a mediator from a neutral country (Sweden?), to come 
>up with agreements as to what part of Kashmir they will get, and that they 
>will not ask for more. (Much like what the Israelis and the Syrians are 
>    There will actually be two votes.  Let me explain: the first vote is to 
>find out whether the Kashmiri's want to be independent, or join with 
>Pakistan; the people in Kashmir will decide this.  Once that has been 
>decided, this decision will have to be ratified by the Indian Parliament.  I 
>think this will best represent the interest of all citizens of India,
>their elected representatives.  The argument that pundits are driven out of 
>their homes is a very valid one.  But through this ratification process they 
>will have a say, and people can have an opportunity to pressure for or 
>    Now is this solution pragmatic? I think it is.  I don't think this will 
>lead to the Assamese to do the same thing or the Punjabis or any other 
>separatist group.  I think they are much weaker than the Paki supported 
>Kashmir separatist.  I also disagree to the mere SPECULATION that Pakistan
>supporting all separatists.
>    Kashmir was a disputed area ever since independence; it was even 
>discussed during the Paki separation.  So I think this is the best solution.
>    Now, what we do if the vote is defeated? What if people want Kashmir to 
>stay with India? Well then that decision of democracy at work should be 
>respected as well and we are back to square one.  But I think that, 
>nevertheless this issue needs to be decided by people and their 
>representatives and not just by special interest Hindu supremacist
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