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Re: cheesy distortions by Naveen - or was it a rotten Onion?



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Since I don't have time to respond to each mail separately, let me
respond
with my thoughts on a general basis.

1) I completely agree with the gentleman/lady who proposed to specify
the
debates and getting down to debating specific sectors and what needs to
be
done to each sector.  Whether strengthing the current system,
decentralizing
the current system, liberalizing the system, <or letting the British
take us
over again through neo-colonization> can all be debated in a
constructive
manner.  I would also agree with Mr. Hombaiah that the topic heading
while
debating should remain the same which would make it easier for us to
follow
the discussion.

2) Since we have already started discussing the changes needed in the
farming
industry, it would be effective in expounding on those farm/land issues
with
specific details and less rhetoric.  I seem to have pissed off Mr. Vamsi
and
others already and their passionate cries against PDS and other
centralized
bureacracies must be heard.  And I would very much like to respond to
Mr.
Vamsi and others if they wish to put forth a market-economic plan that
would
strengthen the farming community... as a way to lead into the
discussion.

3) I think as we discuss specifics of issues, I would also advice that
we
should continue discussing some fundamental philosophical issues.  I
think,
if certain things are established as "rights" of people... as economic
or
social rights... then it will help us focus on the priorities for true
"development" in India, so that before we concetrate on wiring-up rural
India
with connection to internet, we should solve issues with basic
entitlements.
(As the joke goes in the recent political cartoon I saw criticizing
Vajpayee's speech on Independence day, and his guarantee to bring
internet to
rural India within the next 5 years... and one humble farmer stands up
and
asks... "is the internet a new machine that would bring us pani?",
scrathing
his head.)

4) When I first ran into the website for IPI, I thought their definition
of
"liberal" policies was used in the American context of the Democrats in
Congress wanting to strengthen big govt and provide welfare to the
poor...
and then I realized the term was used in the context of neo-liberalism
and in
the text of liberatarianism.  I didn't however attain this enlightenment

until I saw some discussion in IPI. If I had known earlier I probably
wouldn't have joined. (But now I make it my mission to debate with you
folks,
to further my own knowledge on these subjects and since the left is not
even
represented in this forum, I think I might add some construction,
however
inane you may find them to be.) I haven't found many socialists or
leftist in
this forum, and I think that only hurts the discussion in this forum,
thus I
would encourage ideas through which we can get some leading people on
the
left get involved in these discussions.  I think otherwise there is no
fair
debate.. when we have simply Dr. Sabhlok and Prof. Roy argue over the
specifics of what Friedmanian policies can be initiated in India.

peace,

Naveen



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