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Dear friend,

Due to the fact that India_Policy is growing from a group of boistrous
personal friends into a list that is attracting interest from all over
India and the world, and due to the fact that we have to convert this
effort, in stages, into a platform where openness of debate is encouraged
while any liability arising either directly or indirectly from these
debates is eliminated, some rules are being framed for all old and new

You are an "old" subscriber since you are already subscribed to this list. 
Please keep in mind that your decision to subscribe was purely voluntary,
and that you always have, and had, the option to unsubscribe if you find
or found the material posted by anyone, either deliberately, or by error,

For the future, however, we need to make attempts to limit the damage that
could be caused by accidental postings of the type that just happened
today. One way is to make this a completely moderated list, in which case
someone (I, maybe) would get all mail posted to india_policy and would
then screen each mail before posting that mail to other members. After
considerable discussion among a few of us organizing friends, over the
phone, that was felt to be unsustainable in terms of time and energy
needed, as well as a drag on the debates.

As far as today's posting is concerned, all of us who are the organizers
of this list, accept the apologies of Srini since this purely personal
posting was inadvertantly sent to all members of India_Policy by him in a
hurry (Srini is a very busy architect, and we all understand that "To err
is human, to forgive divine"). 

I would also like to make my apologies for having in any way, indirectly
or howsoever, hurt anyone's sensibilities. My own sensibilities have been
deeply touched in this process and I have forsworn to forego the use of
any 'bad' words or any labels for any other human being, even in private
conversation. I must be the most obnoxious person in the world, and I need
to change myself. 

Apart from these apologies to everyone who must have been shocked at this
post, the following is being done, to limit any liability arising to
anyone on account of accidents of any type. 

1) In this particular case, all mail related to this 'accident' -
including this one - will be manually expunged from the web archives. 

2) You are required to read and agree to the rules below. After you have
completely read the rules below, you have the same option - as always - to
remain on the list or to unsubscribe. If you remain on the list, you are
assumed to have agreed to the rules. Of course, you could suggest
alterations to the rules, since these rules are also up for debate and
constant improvement. 

3) A copy of these rules will be posted on the web site. New members will
be forced to agree to these rules on the India_Policy web page before they
are allowed to subscribe from the web.

And now, for the rules which I hastily drafted out:


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India_Policy is a purely private, voluntary list, where individual
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particular piece of mail be expunged from the web archives, which shall
then be done if that piece of mail was posted to India_Policy by mistake,
for example. This way, the 'rest of the world' will not get to read the
expunged mail. 

Copyright to each posting belongs to the individual member making that
posting. No member of India_Policy may post a copy of ANY message posted
by ANY member to India_Policy to any outside person without the express
consent of the person making that posting. 

If any member is unsatisfied with the quality of discussion, he or she has
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I affirm that I have read this document in its entirety and agree to the
terms and conditions contained in it.  I also affirm that I am at least 18
years of age.  I further understand that India_Policy does not censor or
control in any other manner the contents of the information posted on the
list. The only control is at the level of expunging materials from the
archives. Any information I choose to view or transfer is implicitly bound
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any rule or any procedure is to get that procedure changed through debate,
or to unsubscribe.

End of Rules.

My sincere apologies once again to members of the list for the
inconvenience caused by today's accident. 

I will try to get the web page up and running within a few hours from now.

I hope we will not let such an inadvertant accident distract us from our
goal of writing a good manifesto. Human failings are too many for us to
stop this task simply because some of us are more human than others. The
ultimate goal is the betterment of India, and achieving the glorious
vision that we see of our nation with our eyes as clearly as if it were
really there, today.

Yours truly,


[suitably contrite, chastened, humble, contemplative...]